The Mayweather vs. Pacquiao Debacle: Setting the Record Straight
by Paul Magno on December 31, 2009

Today, Manny Pacquiao ended the debate as to whether the Fight of the Millennium between him and Floyd Mayweather Jr. would ever take place.

Pacquiao officially filed a lawsuit in the Nevada federal court against Floyd Mayweather Jr., Floyd Mayweather Sr., Oscar De la Hoya and Richard Schaefer for defamation of character.

Turning back is likely not an option and it is unheard of for two litigants to enter into negotiation for a fight. As a matter of fact, Pacquiao’s attorney will surely advise against Pacquiao having anything to do with Mayweather and Golden Boy.

Barring a major miracle, this fight is dead.

But as the story continues to be a source of debate among fans and media, there are so many issues that have yet to be fully understood by those debating. I see the confusion as I wander through cyberspace: From Twitter to Facebook to the numerous boxing sites and forums.

Confusion, questions and unresolved issues abound in this story of the mega-fight that never was…Here are some of the major misunderstandings swirling around this debacle and the facts behind the controversy.

Manny Pacquiao is on some sort of Performance Enhancing Drug(s)

First and foremost, Manny is innocent ’til proven guilty and has never tested positive for any banned substance. The Nevada State Athletic Commission has no reason to suspect Manny of foul play and has had no plans to put him under supervision.

Theories abound as to the source of Pacquiao’s abilities, but until some evidence to the contrary is provided, Manny should be treated as innocent of any doping allegations.

Mayweather is scared and looking to get out of the fight by asking for additional blood testing

This is patently ridiculous and pure spin manufactured by the Top Rank camp and Mayweather’s dedicated crew of true haters.

You seriously have to question the intelligence and/or boxing sophistication of someone buying into this line of thought.

Everything Mayweather has done since coming back from retirement has pointed towards his desire to fight Manny Pacquiao. This is THE legacy fight for Mayweather.

Even now, as the fight appears to be dead in the water, it’s Mayweather who is signed, sealed and delivered. He was quick to agree to all terms and even compromise on purse split.

I know the “Mayweather ducked so and so” legend is all the rage these days, but there’s no way it applies to this case.

Random blood testing: Contractual stipulation vs. Commission regulation

The blood testing being insisted upon by team Mayweather is a contractual stipulation and has nothing to do with the rules and regulations of the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC).

The NSAC has their own testing procedures and will enforce them as usual. What Team Mayweather is asking for is testing above and beyond the minimum standard of the NSAC.

As part of a contract sipulation, a fighter and his management are pretty much free to negotiate any terms (that don’t directly contradict state regulations). Glove size, ring size, purse, venue, additional testing, weight stipulations, etc…are all issues worked out between the two fighters and their representatives.

As such, Team Mayweather is well within their rights to ask for additional testing just as Team Pacquiao was within their rights to ask for a 10 million dollar per pound penalty if Mayweather comes in over the stipulated weight.

Of course, it’s also within each fighter’s rights to reject any contract stipulation offered by their opponent.

Steroids vs. other Performance Enhancing Drugs (PED)

The NSAC does a good job of screening for steroids and other stimulants, but it would be unlikely that, in this day and age, such a high profile fighter as Manny Pacquiao could get away with using steroids over a long period of time.

However, it is much more feasible and likely that a fighter could be using other PEDs without detection.

Human Growth Hormone (HGH) and Erythropoietin (EPO) are two banned, yet naturally-occurring substances whose use can easily be hidden from normal commission screening methods.

Manny’s Superstitions and Phobias

This is just plain silly.

The first story that came out of the Pacquiao camp was that Manny had a phobia of needles…until somebody realized that Manny has several tattoos. Then, he had a superstition about giving blood…until it’s pointed out that all fighters have to give blood prior to their bouts to screen for HIV and Hepatitis. Then, Manny has a superstition about giving blood too close to fight night…

Whatever the case, this line of thinking is patently infantile and it does nothing to help Manny’s case.

The U.S. Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) is corrupt and somehow affiliated with Oscar De la Hoya.

The USADA is one of the world’s most trusted testing agencies and has supreme experience in dealing with the finest athletes in the world. They operate based on The World Anti-Doping Code and rules established by The International Olympic Committee.

Whether Oscar De la Hoya has a friendly relationship with the director of the USADA or not, it seems unlikely that the organization would jeopardize it’s status and relevance by screwing over one fighter in one prize fight on one given night.

Mayweather is looking to weaken Pacquiao by drawing blood

From the USADA Quarterly Newsletter:

The amount of blood drawn for the tests combined is
minimal, totaling 9mL (just over one-half of a tablespoon)
and would not negatively impact a normal, healthy
person.

Team Pacquiao’s Counter Offer

Team Pacquiao did offer up a compromise to Team Mayweather’s proposed testing. Three blood tests: One around the time of the kick-off press conference, one no sooner than 30 days before the fight and one immediately after the bout.

Unfortunately, this timing would be meaningless in an effort to screen for HGH and EPO.

HGH must cycle through the system, passing through the liver before being of use to the athlete. HGH’s stimulation of the liver is key in its ability to produce the substances necessary to build strength and mass.

The key to HGH use in boxing is to introduce the substance to the body several days before the event and be out of the system well before the fight starts.

EPO also has to cycle through the body to be effective. EPO, passing through the kidneys, produces the substances needed for augmenting endurance and recuperation. It would also be introduced several days before the fight and be out of the system by fight night.

In the case of HGH and EPO, testing 30 days before and on the day of the fight is about as useful as not testing at all.

Team Pacquiao’s other “compromise” was to let the NSAC decide on the proper testing.

Well, the NSAC already has their own testing procedures and wouldn’t be able to alter them for this fight, even if they wanted. A change in testing would require some serious and time-consuming hearings and investigations. Plus, they have already gone on record as saying that additional testing is purely a contractual matter and not a commission-related issue.

So, essentially, Team Pacquiao’s counter offer was no offer at all…

Ok…so that’s the 411 regarding this mess. I think both parties can (and should) be held accountable for this craziness. I don’t want to hear that it’s all one guy’s fault.

Pacquiao has become accustomed to controlling every pre-fight aspect of his encounters and pretty much forcing his opponents to give in to all of his demands…Mayweather is just difficult, period.

Now, as legal papers work their way through the system, this fight is pretty much a dead issue and now, more than ever, we should be calling for a strong national commission.

In cases such as this, a real governing body would step in and say, “Forget the blood tests and weight stipulations! These are the rules, obey them or we won’t allow this fight.”

Until we get some sort of control mechanism involved, expect more insanity as the inmates continue to run the asylum.


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  • guest

    i’m going to teach those fans a lesson. they should not be calling my name to fight somebody.

    they pushed me into this. i choose my own fight and nobody choose it for me-not the public, and not those bigshots in vegas. i already told them whom i want to fight next and they pushed me into this!

    i gave them what they deserve! i screw all their brains, spin their heads, and took them for a ride!!
    …now, they’re all confuse and doesn’t know what the hell hit them!

    they all beg for it so i gave it to them!!!

  • Robert Smith

    Floyd let’s get it on! Manny has step on the plate!No more excuses.Just go by the rules and fight!Let the commission decide what to do regarding testing not you.You deal it 5mins after the fight if you were cheated.Do no twist the scenario that Manny is backing out on the fight.He already challenge you even he been just finish a battle with Miguel Cotto last month and your fight was already finish last Sept.Many is now running for congress in May even though he is very busy he just made himself available just to have a fight as early as March so that you will no excuses that he is running away from you.You have a heart of a fighter and a champion why listen to Richard and Errebe you decide it’s $4OM purse guarantee for 1 fight it doesn’t come overnight it will only come if you fight Manny.You always brag the your the no.1 so prove it.Give the fans a good fight!Don’t be a Bully.The fight will be held on your hometown Nevada why be bothered that you will be cheated.Manny is willing to take 3 test and the most important is after the fight.If you want you put a Nevada official 24/7 on Pacquiao’s to check him if he using illegal substance.You came in boxing the same weigh at the same age at 16.While Manny is on Professional Boxing and you are on Amateur Boxing you told this on Skysports interview.so why make false accusation and trash talk.If Manny will also ask you to take a blood test in General Santos City Philippines will you agree?You have the advantage in height,reach,weight and hometown so why being so scared.This is the fight of the century!Listen to your heart not to this genius advisers that when you get old they will not be on your side.Go Go Go!Dont be a coward!Your getting old! No more excuses floyd you are now cornered!

  • guest

    i can earn that $40 million without getting hurt. i’ll just take two easy fights worth $20 million each and that’s an easy $40 million. the nuthuggers will always be there for me!

    if the talentless kardashians and gosselins are getting it without breaking a sweat, I DESERVE IT BETTER!!!!!

  • guest

    now they are asking ‘what happened to the fight?’

    i’ve spinned their heads so fast they didn’t realize there wasn’t really any fight at all!

    i took them all for a ride!

    spin your, people, spin your head!

  • http://pacland RAHSBOY

    @Guest. I agree. I think Floyd was very successful spinning heads that he even pushed his luck too far and used lies to attain this objective to ruin Pacs life.

  • guest

    ride on, rashboy!

  • chester tyson

    here is a link where Dr. Don Catlin of the UCLA Olympic Analytical Laboratory explains the reason they use blood in testing for EPO. Blood test which cost $60 is a lot cheaper than $400 to test a urine sample. All the blood test does is tell the testers that the athlete has an unusual blood profile that warrants further investigation. The abnormal profile could be caused by the use of EPO, some other blood boosting drug. Then that is when they will perform the urine test. To be convicted of an EPO offense athletes must test positive for EPO with the urine EPO test.
    http://www.letsrun.com/2003/epoqa.php

  • guest

    they pushed me in this fight. i didn’t ask for it. i alrady told whom i want to fight next.

    ….but they keep on chanting my name-’we want guest, we want guest!’…and i’m not even on that fight.

    now i gave them what they deserve. they wanted this fight too much, i ride along with it and took them for a ride myself!

  • Paul Magno

    Come on…this whole “Mayweather doesn’t want the fight” angle is ridiculous.

    That’s like saying that I would get in my car, drive to a restaurant, order the food, wait for it and then would walk away before taking a bite…

    PBF is at the table.

    This whole canonization of Manny Pacquiao is ridiculous.

    What we have here is two elite, stubborn and babied pro fighters who have let ego get in the way of a fight we ALL want to see…

    BOTH fighters and their respective camps should be held responsible.

  • guest

    as long as that NEW METHOD OF TESTING is imposed, i don’t have to fight that other guy. he’s not going to dignify a demand that is based on malicious insinuation nor is he stupid enough to take what he’s not required to take. this NEW METHOD OF TESTING THAT I CREATED SPECIALLY FOR THIS FIGHT will keep me away from facing that guy in the ring.

    now, i can think about my next opponent, somebody that i chose myself instead of being chosen for me.

  • kaygee

    check out my questions.. and ask yourself if you are still inclined with PBF with all the answer’s in your mind..Bye hater!
    http://www.boxingnews24.com/2009/12/pacquiao-mayweather-the-saga-continues/

  • http://pacland RAHSBOY

    So the great accuser Lucifer said to Floyd “It’s pay back time but the lies and concoction I devised for you seems to have no effect on Pac. Damn that PacMan alwasy give glory to his God!” “You failed Floyd so I’ll leave you face this defamation suit and let you substantiate all those lies by yourself before the Nevada court of law”. Just kidding here!

  • guest

    didn’t they heard what i said after my last fight, my next fight will be oscar AGAIN!!!!!

    then those stupid fans started chanting my name in that fight where i’m not even present-’we want guest, we want guest’!

  • boxingfan

    this article is misleading! and for a writer to say “setting the record straight” is a complete joke!

    Mr author you are totally misinformed with this subject matter so maybe do a bit of research before you write something rather than just listening to ellerbe and GBP. Manny never said that is scared of needles. He is wary about blood drawn from him close to the fight! Manny gets a tattoo and goes home and relax! He does not have tattoos and then fight someone for 12 rounds!

    This is the kind of journalism that pachaters read and as gullible as they are, believe and then they spread the hate in the forums, YT and blogs. Sad state of affair!

  • chester tyson

    The day I walk in to my local tattoo parlor and find that they switch from using accupuncture size needles to to needles big enough to draw blood is the day I quit getting tattoed.

  • http://pacland RAHSBOY

    Paul come on. Pac tried to meet Floyd half-way by at leat 3 blood tests and 24/7 urine test. One of those blood test right after the fight. Where is the scientific reason that this is insufficient?

  • http://pacland RAHSBOY

    Dont forget! Happy new Year to both sides of this debate!!

  • guest

    the NEW METHOD OF TESTING THAT I CREATED SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS FIGHT COMBINED WITH MALICIOUS INSINUATION is a very explosive ingredient for stirring the crowd,turn their focus on the other guy, taunt and piss him off until he walks away from the fight!

    WHILE THEY’RE BEING DISTRACTED I CAN SLIP MY WAY OUT BEHIND.

  • danny herrera

    I heard from the country club where oscar dela hoya and the head of usada, tygert or tyger, play golf that oscar brought an attache case full of cash given to that guy in exchange for planting a tainted sample to manny’s blood test with steroid to avenge his humiliation at the hand of manny and not signing with his promotional outfit.
    there must be truth in it because that is the modus operansi od oskie in making deals like the one he did to manny not too long ago.

  • Paul Magno

    @RAHSBOY

    All I can say is please look into HGH and EPO use…it must be already cycled through the body for it to have the desired effect…a blood test after the fight is meaningless…It would be out of the athlete’s body by the time of the event, but the natural chemicals that it stimulated would remain…Happy New Year.

  • Yes Yo!

    Manny’s superstitions and phobias are just plain silly? Of course, they are, that’s precisely why we refer to them as superstitions and phobias. They are irrational fears that people have, and if Pacquiao has it, then we must respect it. FinalLy, the author should check his facts first. Where did he get the idea that Pacquiao himself said that he is afraid of needles or of blood tests? This is a lie. Pacquiao himself said no such thing. In fact, Pacquiao agreed to be blood tested, but not in the manner being proposed by Floyd’s team. So the dispute is not in the idea of blood testing per se, but in tne protocol to be followed for it. Finally, the one question not being addressed by the author, which is relevant to this whole debate is, to borrow from Schaefer himself, is this: “The fact is Manny has never cheated, he has no prior record of taking steroids or PEDs and all his prior tests for the last 10 years have come clean (incidentally, the same NSAC which caught Mosley, Vargas, and Chavez, Jr., employing the urine test during that period), SO WHY THE HELL ARE WE TREATING MANNY AS IF HE IS A CHEAT? SO WHY THE HELL IS THE BURDEN ON HIM TO PROVE THAT HE IS INNOCENT?

  • http://insidefights.com/2009/12/31/the-mayweather-vs-pacquiao-debacle-setting-the-record-straight/ justwondering

    you have some good points there. but “Don’t we already have a governing body for boxing in Nevada right now? -NSAC right?” … and as to the blood test being a “negotiated / contractual matter” – what part of “NO” don’t the mayweather’s understand? – shouldn’t the NSAC be the arbiter for this? so let them do their job

  • Ho

    This guy Paul Magno sounds like he is neutral, but in fact he is implying Pac, and all others who got tested by the rule of using illegal stuffs.
    I wonder then how many of the boxers were or are using it, since the existing method could not detect these substances, according to Paul.
    The existing testing method is meaningless. Why do we use it until now? do I miss something?

  • Ho

    Let the NSAC do the job, to the letter of the rule. Is it being done up to now?
    Why Mayweather demands something differently? He is so fearful of Pac. That’s the reason

  • Summ Well D

    I have been saying this several times and tired already but I’ll say it again for the sake of the morons:
    If you have been following the events that lead to this supposed Pacman-Mayweather fight you should have known: that after Jr. came back from retirement, the father and son Mayweathers were almost in unison in declaring that Pacman has no match with Jr; that Pacman is one dimentional boxer; that Jr. has ring generalship (i don’t know what that means though)etc.etc. Then Jr. fought and defeated Marquez while Pacman fought and defeated Cotto. But surprisingly, when Mayweather Sr. witnessed how Pacman performed against Cotto, he changed his tune to “Pacman must be taking something because it’s impossible to blah..blahh blaahhh and lot more blah blah (a.k.a. for being scared.) After these events, the public pressure has been building up for these guys to fight against each other to settle once and for all who is the best P4P ever possibly by March 2010. Pacman’s ear got injured and trainer Roach was saying that March is too close a date as Manny needs to recuperate. Then initial negotiations ensued where Camp Mayweather pretended to enter into a contract and insisted the March 13 date hoping Pacman camp won’t accept and put the blame on Pacquiao if the fight won’t happen. Then Arum went to the Philippines to convey to Pacman the initial agreement. In five minutes Pacman agreed including the March 13 date. Camp Mayweather were shocked and have to find an exit strategy. So, they cancelled the date with Arum to go to Dallas to negotiate with Jones regarding the venue and now the demand for random testing Olympic style knowing fully well that Pacman will not agree due to negative experience he has when he fight and lost to Morales. All these craps are just ploys of Camp Mayweather because Floyd is afraid to fight Pacquiao. To say otherwise is just plain bulls…
    Pacquiao is clean and ready to knockout Jr. ANYTIME, ANYWHERE and that’s the truth. I just hope this fight wont happen. Pacquiao can still earn millions while Jr. is heading to jail for IRS, casino, house and car problems. Same with Sr. and Uncle. That’s what you get when you accuse an “innocent” man.

  • dongitzclem

    Blood test is an indirect test as screening measure to determine wether the Urine EPO test needs to be done. All the blood test does is tell wether the athlete has an unusual blood profile that warrants further investigation. Thus the urine EPO test is to be administered. The blood test does not have to be done in order for the athlete to test positive for EPO. This means that Urine EPO test is the final determining factor wether an athlete is most likely on EPO. Reason why USADA used blood testing in olympics most likely because blood EPO test is much cheaper @ aroung $60/shot compared to urine EPO test which cost around $400/shot.
    This might lighten all these arguments. This is for both sides to think.

  • tito

    Its so sad that a lot of people still don’t understand that the burden of proof is on the accuser not the accused. They still can’t comprehend the presumption of innocence until proven guilty.

    Until they experience themselves how it feels to be in such a predicament, these basic tenets of true justice will never be appreciated or exercised.

    Its just so sad, after all these centuries, in boxing or much more in life, many still don’t get it!

  • levsky

    The problem with random blood testing is this: If done 1 or 2 days before the fight, Manny Pacquiao will experience what he already experienced before his fight against Morales in 2005. I watched it from Youtube. Maybe it is OK with Mayweather to be blood tested 1 or 2 days before their fight, but not with Pacquiao. According to Pac, he felt dizzy and cannot eat or drink and he felt weakened. So, why subject himself again to such incident? That’s why PacMan rejected Mayweather’s demand of random blood tests. Pac does not want to fight weakened.

  • levsky

    The Mayweathers accused Pacquiao as a cheat not only once but many times, repeatedly in the media. They want Pacquaio to prove them wrong, by subjecting Pac to this USADA random blood test, so they can catch Pacquaio. But where is their evidence? Let them show PROOFS that Pacquiao cheated or used drugs, PEDs or HGH. They have none, yet they talk and talk as though Pac is guilty. Their actions and verbal attacks are so foul and damaging to Pac’s reputation. They accused without evidence. That’s a crime of libel, defamation and slander — let the Court decide now!

  • jay

    Some points Mr. Magno especially on the testing procedure. As a pharmacist/chemist, I will call it the way I see it and I believe that even the experts in the field would find the 48-72 hour window acceptable to maintain what they call “credibility”. Let’s be very clear that Pacquiao and his coach is already agreeing to a 48-72 hour window. Meaning 48-72 hours below the fight and one immediately after. You can even take 9cc from him every day for all he care. He made it clear that he just does not want it to be too close to the fight. I want to believe that the Mayweather camp with its advisors is after EPO and not recombinant HGH. It is a known fact that chronic use of rHGH causes muscle weakness. And if the Mayweathers (and fans, maybe including you) actually think that rHGH has more benefits than harm to an athlete, then they are misinformed. Next, if they actually think that EPO is only detected by blood, then they are being misdirected once again. WADA has a validated urine test for that and it is a procedure that can be adapted by any regulatory body. If it was EPO, that would invalidate their allegations on Pacquiao’s rise in weight (from 106 to 147, which is stupid by the way) because its effect is on stamina and not weight gain. However, having said that, it is important to know that EPO testing entails trending over a course of several months to years. For a one off fight like this, a short-term trend will almost have no bearing. So I’d say so much for the efforts to keep a “credible” testing. One has to wonder now, what’s the need for this invasive blood test? Another factor also is the tendency of the test to yield a false positive result based on other determinants such as hematocrit. An athlete rigorously training who loses water through sweating (as in boxing) and does not hydrate properly in time for a “surprise” test will have an increased hematocrit, thus giving a false positive indication. That is one good point to stress that a “random” test actually isn’t always an effective tool to use here. Another point is that the test is not masking-agent proof, so why bother? You treat Floyd Jr. a suspect just like how everyone treats Pacquiao. While I, for one believe that the additional tests put forth by Team Mayweather aside from NSAC’s do not merit anything, sad to say that it seems the only way Packy (who has been cleared by NSAC’s thorough banned-substances screening time and again) can 99% clean his name and reverse the damage brought to him by this fiasco. The damage has been done, and poor Packy, he will always have a 1% question mark instilled in the minds of the public that he will have to carry throughout his life. It’s also sad to say that the “guilty unless proven innocent” which defies reasoning and logic is the one that is prevailing. No doubt however that Pacquiao will pass the tests as would Mayweather, and his first retribution attempt will be in ring. Again, a 48-hour window looks acceptable, and if Floyd Jr.’s adviser will not agree to that, then either they have been misadvised about this, or they know it and they are just posturing to avoid this fight.

  • Quinch

    Americans don’t know what it’s like to a Flipino and are familuar with your culture. However, one thing we arware of is your cheating corrupt culture.

    It’s funny how you flipino;s always talk abt your Roman Christianty as if you don’t have root set in corruptness. Sure Mini Mouse is afraid to take periodic blood test, the dude is guility just like your 3rd world country is suspect.

  • richard fernando

    mr. magno,hw can you say that its ridiculous to say that MW is scared of pac?that this is just all a show because MW was just cornered into this fight,that maybe he came back to boxing because he’s running out of money,and that he thought he could beat pac but waited for pac to fight cotto first to somehow gauge pac and then suddenly became afraid because of how pac destroyed cotto,and that he’s so eager to downplay pac because pac surpassed all his accomplishments and pac is so loved by fans that he himself never got from them….
    how can you say that its ridiculous????do you know ultimately the motive of yhis mayweathers???how did you know???do you read minds???on the contrary,if you follow these developments since MW returned,it totally makes sense!!!!he’s so jealous and envious of pac surpassing his legacy and he’s also running broke thats why he returned…but now realizing that it will be difficult to beat pac,he wants to appear as if he wants to fight him and make it appear pac is duckin….march date,too soon for pac but pac accepted,uhoh,plan A didnt work,plan b,usda drug testing,perfect!!!pac disagrees,i fooled some people into believing pac is a cheat,i look like i really wanted the fight coz i also agreed to other stipulations,
    and ultimately the fight doesnt get done!!!yahhhoooo!!!!totally makes sense to me…pls answer

  • Quinch

    Jay nice article but you have got to be kidding?? What the heck are yout talking about. Mini mouse is taking a designer drug, and neither you nor I haven’t clue in terms of the type. All I know is this dude is guilty. PERIOD. You can make all the excuses you want but the bottom line is this dude is corrupt just like Roach, Arum and the Philipines.

  • Quinch

    Fernando it’s obvious you are drunk and out of your mind! Money came back retirment to fight Paq the cheat becuase it would gross a ton of money. Even if was broke or near broke the bottom line is MONEY. That said, boxers are entertainers, and everyone in the game is about money, fool. Do you really think you, me or any corrupt flipino would be afraid to fight a man for $50mil? You’re an idiot!

  • Quinch

    Danny you are fool and clearly speculation! People like you are the reason why the Philipines is a crooked, slippery, corrupt country. Which is the reason why true Americans aren’t buying the Flip traditions.

  • richard fernando

    amoumt of blood will not weaken pac….again how do you know???thats what they may say but how can you say,have you ever been tested usda style while training for a fight???well,pacquiao has an experience and he didnt like it,ultimately resulted to his loss in a fight,atleast so he believes…thats his body,he knows it..you argue well the tests didnt stop michael phelps to get record breaking medals,i ask you then,he may not have felt weakened but isn’t it also safe to assume that they couldve done better,its just that what he did was enough for him to win,but if blood not been drawn from him he might have performed better,meaning faster time,etc???well,you may say we may never know cause you really cant answer that ultimately,can you?and i ask of you,is it not that your mind is the director of our body?let us assume that drawing blood do not have physical effects,how about the psychological effects of it???even a freethrow in basketball could be psychological at times,specially in crucial times,what more in boxing where you need complete mental strength specially in a fight of this magnitude…in other words,you weaken the mind,you weaken the body,or atleast the way the body will perform…..answer again,pls…

  • richard fernando

    quinch,how do you know 50 m,can you see the future man???knowing mayweather,i know hes got a dilemna,he will earn a lot of money for fighting pac but risk losing which his ego cant handle and his legacy down the drain,or he can duck but still look “pretty” and pointing the finger to pac and earn not big money but safe oppobnent,he has signed for a five fight contract meaning he has 4 more,which by the way for me is his only legacy in boxing…ducking!!!got it?now put it in you a–!!!!

  • jay

    quinch, have you got anything sensible to say? if not then go to bed before you hurt yourself.

  • http://InsideFights pacfan

    how come all of the saddened maywather have so many request? when he fought marquez, he was over the weight requirements and shane mosley was protected by GBP regarding a blood test. obviously when it comes to a black man, it’s okay and no questions ask. now, i think that manny is being targeted because he’s an asian. how come that the americans are being biased? make it a mandatory blood testing to all the boxers and not just for manny, because it’s injustice. stop making a fiasco and a mockery. paul magno, the only thing i can say to you is, you’re “GAGO AND SIRA!”

  • novzki

    FLOYD F*** YOU!! MANNY IS WILLING TO BE TESTED AFTER THE FIGHT! WHAT’S THE DIFFERENCE YOU S***… BLOODTESTING IS A WAY FOR YOU TO DISTRACT MANNY! YOU SHOULD BE ASHAME FOR PULLING THIS TACTIC… IF YOU WANT A CREDIBLE VICTORY, BOTH OF YOU MUST COME 100% AT FIGHT NIGHT… FLOYD SHOULD GROW SOME BALLS!!

  • novzki

    HERE’S A VIDEO ON WHY MANNY IS AFRAID TO LOSE BLOOD BEFORE A FIGHT:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4JrQj19R0U

    Why not take it after the fight?

  • Phil Pinuno

    @Paul Magno

    If the testing for EPO and HGH you have described is that complicated, then much more Floyd can’t insist it contractually.

    It has to be studied first and implemented above board for all of the professional boxers out there — NOT JUST FOR PACQUAIO –, or PBF since he is the one who is requested such test.

    There are too much issues to solve first — Not just, hey Pacquiao, do the test to prove you’re innocent. That’s idiocy.

    If is just on contractual basis, then Pacquiao has all the rights to reject it. It’s now the fault of coward PBF to demand things he should not have demanded in the first place.

    BTW, who fabricated such false accusations, is it not the Mayweathers themselves?

    You’re right Pacquiao is innocent until proven guilty. The case is in the court now, Mayweathers will be given their chance to prove their allegations in court.

    Bye bye $40M.

  • http://www.yahoo.com pink

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_97MccjZwV4

    watch this 2005 video of manny pacquiao interview. this explains mayweather and GBP blood test dirty tactics. shame on you guys.

    Manny is for REAL

  • RP

    this is another stupid writer wasting internet readers’ time…you havent quoted any HGH or EPO scientific expert or authority PAUL MAGNO, what a way to write about certain issues with this magnitude…are you a PED expert now huh?? you cant even write a stupid article for CHr@St sake. As3@!h*le

  • RP

    Last 5 posts by Paul Magno

    1. The Return of American Swagger – December 18th, 2009
    2. Diaz vs. Malignaggi II: Is It Time For Diaz To Take the Fall? – December 11th, 2009
    3. The Tangled Web of Boxing’s Officials – December 10th, 2009
    4. Why The Hell Is This Guy Not a Draw? – December 7th, 2009
    5. Pacquiao in Perspective – November 18th, 2009

    ALL NONSENSE ARTICLES, which publications rejected!!!

  • http://none frank

    this blood test “contractual” demand by floyd and GBP is hypocritical and discriminatory.

    when zab judah asked that mosley go through a stringent blood testing before their fight (which was later cancelled) this was what Schaefer of GBP said;

    “Whatever tests they (the Nevada Athletic Commission) want them to take, Shane will submit to that,”

    “We are not going to do other tests than the Nevada commission requires. The fact is Shane is not a cheater and he does not need to be treated like one.”

    so, shane is not a cheater? but pacman is?

    are they going to blood test him (mosley) this time (against berto?)no! did they blood test julio cesar chavez jr in his fights? no! mayorga? no! vargaz? no roy jones? no!

    these people were documented ped/hgh/epo users!

    this is typical american hypocrisy.

  • http://none frank

    a boxer’s reaction to blood being drawn during training

    from boxing talk
    daily bread

    In the spirit of being fair, I called a respected trainer out of Philly named Kenny Mason today. He trains one of the best young prospects in the city by name of Julian Williams. I asked him had Williams ever had any blood work done before training and/or fighting and if so did it affect his performance. He told me that Williams had small amounts of blood taken from him twice in the past and sparred the same day and both times he looked horrible.

    If that’s the case, then it’s understandable because multiple blood samples being taken during his training would prevent him from performing at an optimal level for too long a time during camp.

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