Don’t Bet The Rent Money On Marquez
by Bryan Trafford on August 30, 2009

As September 19th draws near, the Juan Manuel Marquez bandwagon seems to be picking up steam.  Whether it’s from trainers, promoters, or boxing writers, people are not so sure Floyd Mayweather will keep his undefeated record for much longer.

Oscar De La Hoya said so in his weekly blog over at Ring Magazine. Here are some snippets:

I feel Marquez’s style is well-suited for Mayweather.

Marquez is not a slow fighter at all; he’s faster than people think.

I also feel Marquez won’t respect Mayweather’s power at all because he’s been in there with hard punchers. I’ll tell you one thing: Mayweather does not hit hard.

But De La Hoya isn’t alone in his sentiments. HBO sports programming head Ross Greenburg thinks Marquez can pull it off as well. In an interview with Newsday.com, he had this to say:

“There are certain people in boxing who will tell you that there has never been a boxer who has been able to adjust like JMM can during a fight.”

“Look at the Diaz fight. He was getting beat and then he took him out. He’ll also fight in rounds six through 12 as if he is fighting in the first 30 seconds of the fight, fresh as a daisy.”

These sentiments are also starting to spread to boxing writers as well.  Gabriel Montoya at Maxboxing had this to say in his weekly mailbag about the fight and Mayweather’s recent drama:

I’ve been pretty upfront about Marquez’ chances (slim and none and slim left town) but after hearing all this, I am starting to turn the corner a little bit. Juan has a giant Mexican chip on his shoulder coming into this bout.

Now before you go betting your hard earned rent money on this fight, let me bring you back to reality.  De La Hoya is a promoter. You can throw what he said out of the window. He is trying to sell a fight that isn’t selling well. Part of that is the belief by many fans that Mayweather is too big and too good for Marquez to defeat.

With that perception, it’s hard to get people to spend their money on this fight. Why would Mexican fans spend their money to see their fighter being set up to lose on Mexican Independence day?

De La Hoya coming out saying he thinks Marquez will defeat Mayweather should be taken with a grain of salt for that purpose alone. If his words can help convince people Marquez can pull off the upset, they will be more inclined to tune in to watch it.

As for Greenburg, he is fighting the same battle De La Hoya is, on behalf of HBO. He knows as well as anybody that fans need to believe the fight won’t be one sided.  24/7 was created in part, just for that reason. It was a platform to spark your interest in the fight, and that cannot be done if the fight looks like a mismatch.

HBO therefore can give you whatever impression they want you to have during the series.  One can bet they won’t give you the impression that this is a Mayweather “tuneup” fight.

As for Montoya’s claims, they hold some validity. With all the drama swirling around Mayweather recently, you have to wonder how it’s affecting his training. He also points out he gave Marquez slim to no chance to begin with.

I’m sticking with Mayweather by UD or late stoppage. You can forget about De La Hoya claiming Marquez will be fast. Zab Judah was lightning fast, and Mayweather beat him. Marquez possesses nowhere near that level of handspeed. His speed will not affect Mayweather.

De La Hoya said Mayweather doesn’t hit very hard. That’s easy coming from someone who campaigned at Middleweight for the latter parts of his career. Marquez was shook up by punches from feather fisted Juan Diaz, and Mayweather certainly hits a lot harder than that.

Greenburg lauded Marquez’s ability to remain fresh during a fight. Since when was Mayweather known to not finish strong. In fact, that’s one of the main staple of his game. He starts slow, and comes on as the fight progresses and he adjusts.

Mayweather has had his share of drama lately. First his uncle decided to join the Ike Turner fan club. Then someone in Mayweather’s entourage allegedly shot someone with a gun that may have been his. Rumors are circling that he doesn’t look good in training camp.

Don’t believe the hype. Mayweather at eighty percent will still beat Marquez. He is bigger, stronger, faster, younger, and better defensively than Marquez. Even if Marquez is able to get the best of him, he will be able to adjust later on.

If Marquez comes at him, look for him to lose some early rounds. As the rounds progress, he will find his rhythm. If Marquez presses too hard, Mayweather will bite down, walk him down, and knock him out.

If Marquez attempts to box with Mayweather, look for him to potshot and try to out-cute Marquez for twelve rounds.  Marquez proved to be there for straight punches against Juan Diaz, and he ate many in the early rounds. Look for him to eat those punches late against Mayweather, and they will be harder and quicker.

Marquez can win this fight, but he most likely won’t. Don’t let the spin machine fool you. This fight is still a Mayweather tuneup. Save your rent money for things like um, say, the rent.


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  • Jet G

    if jmm wins would you also write an article about why your prediction did not come true…

  • bryan trafford

    Jet, of course I will. I’m a boxing writer, that’s what I do. I’m not really too worried about that,though.

    A lot of the fans that are predicting JMM will win are Mayweather haters.

    I have yet to hear a plausible argument for a Marquez victory.

  • punster

    Get ready with your coffee. Two counterpunchers equals boring fight and will put you to sleep. Gayweather will win this via a unanimous 12 round decision.

  • gerry

    JMM is good. But when it is de la Hoya that talks, one begins to entertain doubts. He is a promoter. As a boxer and a person, he has no credibility. He just wants to sell the fight. He is a poor loser who talks ill of past opponents that beat him.

  • f

    dela hoya and someone who works for HBO tries to even the terms of the fight. why is it not so surprising given that they are promoting the fight. making it look like it would be a fan friendly fight when it it really not. of course you need to promote your own product, that’s how you make your money.

  • betz

    Floyd has just kept hyping himself turning down other people who’s fan in boxing, now all i want for floyd to be pitty and down and hope that thru marquez, floyd of his coming back will be terminated right in the sport of boxing.

  • masking

    hey brian, if marquez wins over floyd. and pacman wins over cotto. Is it a compelling reason for pacman to fight jmm and prove that he’s still p4p best? more power to you!

  • DIRDGR8

    THERE IS NOT ONE ATTRIBUTE IN BOXING THAT MARQUEZ HAVE AN EDGE ON… HAYFEATHER DON’T HAVE A SINGLE LOSS, HE’S BIGGER, FASTER, YOUNGER, COCKIER, & QUICKER. NOT TO MENTION HE IS ONE HELL OF A DEFENSIVE WIZARD. NOW, THOSE WHO THOUGHT MARQUEZ HAS EVEN THE SLIMMEST CHANCE IN HELL IN WINNING THIS FIGHT, PLEASE TELL US IN WHAT ASPECT OF THE SWEET SCIENCE DOES HE HAVE THE ADVANTAGE ON…… PLEASEEE! UNLESS YOU DO, I’LL SETTLE WITH WATCHING IT IN YOUTUBE.

  • coolwaterjinx

    yeah… yeah…
    both these fighter arent complete until they faced the pacman…
    purse/money maybe an excuse but all of us know that by only beating the pacman convincingly, cementing his legacy will undeniable. as of now, pacman is the man.

  • Jayson

    This is what will happen fight night. Both of this fighter will counter punch, they will wait for the other fighter to attack until round 12. On the last round, the first one to attack will loose! Judges score cards are as follow:

    Judge 1: 1-0
    Judge 2: 1-0
    Judge 3: 1-0

    Yep, you seen it right. There’s only one punch thrown.

  • Kojie

    Folks, that is not prediction. The writer is using plain and simple common sense. Just like when Pacman fought Oscar. But then again, Pacman is something special really. I just don’t know about the Cotto fight though. I still have to see how he’s doing in training, if ever he will train, hahaha. Of course, if you are a Juanita fan then runt and grunt for him all you want, who cares. Fact of the matter is, Juanita above 140 is unproven commodity and sits well below the 40% winning percentage, so why bet on him?

  • Viel Mervic

    This article is spot-on. Marquez beating Mayweather is like a never-ending dream. Heck, he just got lucky that Diaz became confused right after he got the cut, and mind you, Diaz always comes forward. That’s a type of fighter Marquez like. Ask Manny Pacquiao. But what about Money May? Oh geez, how can you counterpunch the master counterpuncher? This is going to be a VERY one-sided short fight (yep, a short fight).

  • arcquie

    I’d rather watch UFC 103 instead of watching this boring fight between Mayweather VS Marquez.

  • http://boxeoeditores.com Reynaldo S.

    I think a lot of people was surprised in Sept 19..reason 1 Gayweather is not a great counterpunch just a man that elusive the fight, had 2 year retired, and her capability to beat a fighter like JMM is not a reality..Remember Castillo. Reason 2, based in the article someone would believe that Pac could beat Gaywather,,why? Pac beat Oscar an Hatton, but JMM won over Pac in her previous fight..Well I see that. Reason 3, when Gaywather accept this fight in 145 pound he know that need to loss a lot of pound to reach the catch weight..He can be surprised by Marquez.

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